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Adam and Eve, Earth or Heaven?

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    Assalam alakium/hello

    I have came across something I need help with and all religions apply:


    Was Adam and Eve created in Heaven and sent down to earth as punishment for disobeying God?

    Or were Adam and Eve created on earth and sent out of eden as punishment for disobeying God?
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    Re: Adam and Eve, Earth or Heaven?

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    format_quote Originally Posted by ummsara1108 View Post
    Assalam alakium/hello

    I have came across something I need help with and all religions apply:


    Was Adam and Eve created in Heaven and sent down to earth as punishment for disobeying God?

    Or were Adam and Eve created on earth and sent out of eden as punishment for disobeying God?
    Adam and Eve, Earth or Heaven?

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    Re: Adam and Eve, Earth or Heaven?

    they were in heaven, and they were sent down to earth, but they were not PUNISHED as they made a mistake, which is not worthy of punishment, Adam [AS] was sent down to earth to convey the religion, as it was decreed for him and his progeny
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    Re: Adam and Eve, Earth or Heaven?

    There is a controversy amongst the scholars as to whether the 'garden' which they were in was actually in paradise or a garden on earth.

    Allah knows best.
    Adam and Eve, Earth or Heaven?

    "Indeed in the remembrance of Allah do hearts find rest"


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    Re: Adam and Eve, Earth or Heaven?

    Sure Is Confusing!!!!!!!
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    format_quote Originally Posted by sister7864 View Post
    they were in heaven, and they were sent down to earth, but they were not PUNISHED as they made a mistake, which is not worthy of punishment, Adam [AS] was sent down to earth to convey the religion, as it was decreed for him and his progeny


    They weren't punished?
    I don't think it was a mistake they made, it was a direct disobeyment of Gods law, which is punishable, correct?
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    Re: Adam and Eve, Earth or Heaven?



    Let me post my notes from Sheikh Faisal's lecture...hold on....

    Shaytaan could not see the private parts of Adam and Hawa when they were in Heaven because the had Heavenly clothing which was made from light – when they ate from the tree – the clothing went =

    Shaytaan loves to look at the private parts of others
    “…Let not Satan seduce you, in the same manner as He got your parents out of the Garden, stripping them of their raiment, to expose their shame…” [7:27]
    Difference between Paradise and Heaven:
    Paradise=
    1st person to enter Paradise – Muhammad (SAW)
    Believers will enter Paradise on D.O.J
    In Paradise- no such thing as a Haraam tree – no Haraam can take place
    Paradise – you won’t be thrown out “Khaalideena Feehaa Aabaadaa” – Forever and forever!
    IBLIS CANNOT ENTER PARADISE
    Paradise is for the ‘Muttaqeen’ (Righteous)

    Similar=
    Not to work for a living
    So basically, Heaven and Paradise are different things.

    Allaahu Aalim...
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    Re: Adam and Eve, Earth or Heaven?

    format_quote Originally Posted by AhLÄÄM View Post


    Let me post my notes from Sheikh Faisal's lecture...hold on....





    So basically, Heaven and Paradise are different things.

    Allaahu Aalim...


    Ok so they were in heaven or paradise?
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    Re: Adam and Eve, Earth or Heaven?



    According to Sheikh Faisal's lecture, they were in Heaven. Because:

    - once a person enters Paradise they are not thrown out
    - there is no haraam tree in paradise
    - the first person to enter paradise will be the Prophet Muhammad SAW
    etc.

    And Sheikh Faisal's lecture actually makes sense.

    Allaahu Aalim.
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    Re: Adam and Eve, Earth or Heaven?

    ty very much for reasponse's
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    Re: Adam and Eve, Earth or Heaven?

    format_quote Originally Posted by IceQueen~ View Post
    There is a controversy amongst the scholars as to whether the 'garden' which they were in was actually in paradise or a garden on earth.

    Allah knows best.
    One thing's for sure. It definitely wasn't my back garden.
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    Re: Adam and Eve, Earth or Heaven?

    format_quote Originally Posted by sister7864 View Post
    they were in heaven, and they were sent down to earth, but they were not PUNISHED as they made a mistake, which is not worthy of punishment, Adam [AS] was sent down to earth to convey the religion, as it was decreed for him and his progeny
    & some believe it's footprint of Adam(as) as he landed on earth; somewhere in todays Sri Lanka.:-
    image004 - Adam and Eve, Earth or Heaven?


    A Hadees says he was >90 feet tall.
    Bukhari:55:543:-
    The Prophet said, "Allah created Adam, making him 60 cubits tall.(1cubit = 1.5 feet) When He created him, He said to him, "Go and greet that group of angels, and listen to their reply, for it will be your greeting (salutation) and the greeting (salutations of your offspring." So, Adam said (to the angels), As-Salamu Alaikum (i.e. Peace be upon you). The angels said, "As-salamu Alaika wa Rahmatu-l-lahi" (i.e. Peace and Allah's Mercy be upon you). Thus the angels added to Adam's salutation the expression, 'Wa Rahmatu-l-lahi,' Any person who will enter Paradise will resemble Adam (in appearance and figure). People have been decreasing in stature since Adam's creation.
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