Praying Nafl after Witr

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I know there is a hadeeth that says we should keep witr as our last prayer of the night. In Ramadan we pray taraweeh and witr in jamaa'ah. So if we want to pray more nafl after that, is it permissible?

One more question about tahajjud....is it necessary to get some sleep before praying it / Is the reward lesser if we pray it late night without sleeping at all?
 
Abu Zainab said:
So if we want to pray more nafl after that, is it permissible?
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Yes. You can pray as much as you want even after you do witr (Arabic word for "odd" -as in numbers) but you never do another witr after that. Only one witr per night. This is how Mohammad dictated it.

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is it necessary to get some sleep before praying it / Is the reward lesser if we pray it late night without sleeping at all?
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No. As far as I know, the fact that you bothered to pray at such late night is good enough to grant you full credit.
 
Abu Zainab said:
I know there is a hadeeth that says we should keep witr as our last prayer of the night. In Ramadan we pray taraweeh and witr in jamaa'ah. So if we want to pray more nafl after that, is it permissible?

One more question about tahajjud....is it necessary to get some sleep before praying it / Is the reward lesser if we pray it late night without sleeping at all?
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Asalaamu Alaikum, regarding your question about witr then it is better to pray it as the last prayer of the night as this is the most rewarding way of praying Witr. So Witr could be prayed either before sleeping or if one will awaken for Tahajjud then after Tahajjud one should pray the Witr.

If one is uncertain whether or not one will be able to awaken for Tahajjud or not then it is better to pray Witr before sleeping just to be on the safe side as Witr is compulsory whereas Tahajjud is not. That means that if it is missed then one is sinful and one has to repeat the prayer.

If one prayed their Witr but wants to pray Nafil after it then that is also fine. Tahajjud can be prayed straight after completion of Isha Fard and Sunnah as it is not necessery to sleep first but it is far more rewarding to sleep for 2-4 hours before awakening to pray Tahajjud for the reason Tahajjud is so rewarding is because of the fact that one is awakening at the deep stage of ones sleep which is the hardest to awaken from and whilst everyone else is sleeping one is standing in front of Allah in the latter part of the night sincerely worshipping him and asking of him. That is why to pray and to ask of Allah in the last third part of the night is the best time of all and is when ones prayer is most likely to be accepted.

There is no doubt that one can attain a special bond, relationship and closeness to Allah with waking up for Tahajjud everynight as well as higher ranks of Jannah. So waking up for tahajjud is by far the best habit a Muslim can gain.

May Allah give us all the ability to wake up everynight to pray this auspicious prayer. Ameen
 
Yes you can there is no restriction on it perform Nafl in prayers after Witr as far as the concern of your second question so the answer is also yes you need to get little sleep a while before starting Tahajjat.
 
ayesha.ansari said:
Yes you can there is no restriction on it perform Nafl in prayers after Witr as far as the concern of your se:phewcond question so the answer is also yes you need to get little sleep a while before starting Tahajjat.
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:sl:

You dont need to sleep to pray Tahajjud as you can pray it straight after Isha Salaah but its best to so that one can gain more reward for it as there is far more reward for getting up to pray and worship Allah in the latter part of the night.

And Allah knows best in all matters
 
:wasalamex

^ Can you provide a daleel for that please InshaAllaah? That you can pray tahajjud right after Isha.
 
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Abu Zainab said:
I know there is a hadeeth that says we should keep witr as our last prayer of the night. In Ramadan we pray taraweeh and witr in jamaa'ah. So if we want to pray more nafl after that, is it permissible?

One more question about tahajjud....is it necessary to get some sleep before praying it / Is the reward lesser if we pray it late night without sleeping at all?
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:salamext:

The Prophet :saws1: said that witr should be the last prayer of the night. But if one wants to continue praying tahajjud after taraweeh is over during Ramadan, he can break witr standing up after the imam has said salam for witr prayer, and pray one rakah in order to make witr into an even number, thus not count as witr anymore (sicne with is meant to be prayed in odd numbers). This is what Ibn Umar (r) did and this is also the opinion of Shaykh Uthaymeen (r). Witr can be prayed at any time of the night and sleep is not a requirement before praying it. But one should sleep as long as one is sure that he will pray it and not miss it. The Prophet :saws1: said in Bukhari and Muslim to pray it before dawn and as far as I understand the best time for witr is before the break of dawn.

Allah knows best.
 
Umm Ahlaam said:
:salamext: brother Abd Al Latif

Can you help with this?
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:wasalamex

Tahajjud can be prayed at any time after isha until fajr. It is better however to pray at the last third of the night because it is the time when Allah descends to the lowest heaven, but it is still an act of great servitude to Allah to pray tahajjud at any time.
 
^ Jazaak Allaah Khayr, can I have a daleel for that InshaAllaah? (Not that I doubt what you are saying, but just to make sure?)
 
I can't remember any from the top of my head, I'll have to post them later today inshaa'Allah.
 
^ Jazaak Allaah Khayr. I mean personally I always find it hard to wake up that early in the morning.

So if I can pray Isha at 18:30 and then pray Tahajjud 2 hours later, Alhamdulillah for that.
 
:wasalamex

^ I meant is there a hadith or something that states we can do so?

Edit: Who is this scholar? where is he from? Just read fatwa.
 
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From Tafsir Ibn Kathir:

For Verse: "And in some parts of the night offer the salah (prayer) with it (reciting the verses of the Quran), as an additional prayer (Tahajjud)" (Holy Quran 17:79)

(The Night prayer) Allah commanded His Messenger to pray the Night prayer after offering the prescribed prayers, and the term Tahajjud refers to prayer that is offered after sleeping. This was the view of `Alqamah, Al-Aswad, Ibrahim An-Nakha`i and others. It is also well-known from the Arabic language itself. A number of Hadiths report that the Messenger of Allah used to pray Tahajjud after he had slept. These include reports from Ibn `Abbas, `A'ishah and other Companions, may Allah be pleased with them. This has been discussed in detail in the appropriate place, praise be to Allah. Al-Hasan Al-Basri said, "This is what comes after `Isha', or it could mean what comes after sleeping.''
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Source: http://www.qtafsir.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2796&Itemid=72

Comments?
 
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Hamza Asadullah said:
Asalaamu Alaikum, regarding your question about witr then it is better to pray it as the last prayer of the night as this is the most rewarding way of praying Witr. So Witr could be prayed either before sleeping or if one will awaken for Tahajjud then after Tahajjud one should pray the Witr.

If one is uncertain whether or not one will be able to awaken for Tahajjud or not then it is better to pray Witr before sleeping just to be on the safe side as Witr is compulsory whereas Tahajjud is not. That means that if it is missed then one is sinful and one has to repeat the prayer.

If one prayed their Witr but wants to pray Nafil after it then that is also fine. Tahajjud can be prayed straight after completion of Isha Fard and Sunnah as it is not necessery to sleep first but it is far more rewarding to sleep for 2-4 hours before awakening to pray Tahajjud for the reason Tahajjud is so rewarding is because of the fact that one is awakening at the deep stage of ones sleep which is the hardest to awaken from and whilst everyone else is sleeping one is standing in front of Allah in the latter part of the night sincerely worshipping him and asking of him. That is why to pray and to ask of Allah in the last third part of the night is the best time of all and is when ones prayer is most likely to be accepted.

There is no doubt that one can attain a special bond, relationship and closeness to Allah with waking up for Tahajjud everynight as well as higher ranks of Jannah. So waking up for tahajjud is by far the best habit a Muslim can gain.

May Allah give us all the ability to wake up everynight to pray this auspicious prayer. Ameen
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JazakAllah khayr
 
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Sorry for the late reply. This hadeeth below is worded for witr, but witr is a part of qiyaam. And therefore Qiyaam can be prayed at any time after the sunnah of Isha.

The Prophet :saws1: said: "Whoever fears that he will not wake up in the later part of the night, let him perform witr in the first part of it. And whosoever expects to wake up in the later part of the night, let him pray it then. Indeed the prayer at the later part of the night is witnessed (by the angels), and that is better. (Saheeh Muslim and others)
 
Umm Ahlaam said:
:wasalamex

^ I meant is there a hadith or something that states we can do so?

Edit: Who is this scholar? where is he from? Just read fatwa.
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:sl:

He is a respected sheikh from Canada. Regarding your question then as the Sheikh mentioned it is agreed upon by the majority of scholars that Tahajjud prayer although it is far better to sleep first and then pray it in the third portion of the night as Rasulallah (Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam) used to do, it can still be prayed after Isha as sleep is not a requirement for prayng Tahajjud prayer. So if one cannot awaken for Tahajjud in the latter part of the night then one can pray it after Isha or before going to sleep. See: al-Mawsoo‘ah al-Fiqhiyyah, 2/232.

Witr should be the last prayer of the night and should be prayed after Tahajjud but if a person was to awaken after a few hours and it was still before dawn then one can still make wudu and pray Tahajjud. The latter part of the night is also the best time to worship Allah and make sincere dua and tawbah as that is the time most are asleep and Allah's mercy extends to his devotees even more at that time.

If one divides the night in thirds, then the final middle third is most virtuous. [Durr al-Mukhtar]

If one divides the night in half, then the second half is more virtuous. [ibid.]

So Tahajjud comes under Qiyaam Al Lail which also includes other acts of worship like dhikr, Qur'an recitation, Dua etc, which can be done before or after sleep for an unspecified amount of time - Basically however much one can do even if it is for a short while.

May Allah enable us to worship him when most are asleep. Ameen

And Allah knows best in all matters
 

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